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keep in mind that if you actually have the disorder, if you had a tulpa they would also suffer from the disorder and it might just make the situation more messy

the thing I try to say is that : "these disorders are not well know yet, there is many things to discover, in other culture I would have be a "genius" or "oracle" or "someone who talk to spirits" or things like this.

3:39 PM

I don't want any labels, I just want to live my life as I want, even if it's painful sometime, for me or for the other, I like my freedom.

3:40 PM

I would have lived in another culture, I would be treated differently. Here, my people send me to psychiatrist hospital that feel like prison with chemical straitjacket

3:40 PM

it's even more painful to be in hospital that to be free to live what I want, with respect of the other, I'm totally for non-violence.

3:41 PM

but I found pure intense violence in my inner "shadow"

3:41 PM

in other country, people with this diagnosis are in open dialogue talk with people/doctor. But in my country, doctor barely talk to me, they don't really care.

3:42 PM

Thanks I'm grateful to have internet to read other point of view about what I'm experiencing

what pure intense violence did you find in your inner shadow?

Thanks I'm grateful to have internet to read other point of view about what I'm experiencing

@BlastKiller - jump you are welcome, i don’t like labels myself, but i think it is important to recognise the symptoms you have and how they can affect you

3:43 PM

i’m sad that you are not getting help you wish you got

I would name it "internal spiritual torture", like voices screaming : 'KILL YOURSELF' in my head, feeling like many nails put in my head/brain), that was the end of an intense "spiritual crisis". And also voices feelings like putting knife in my heart.

3:44 PM

a true nightmare/bad trip/bad spiritual experience.

those sound like very intense experiences

so, after experiences this, I feel like I can experience everything. By the way, I also had very good experiences (girls voices moaning of pleasure; sweet tender loving caring voices talking to me in the most pleasant way that even my loving mother never talked this way)

3:45 PM

totally full pure Bliss

3:46 PM

that's also why I want to keep my "symptoms" (I work in IT, there is an expression in coder who say : "it's not a bug, it's a feature". I like to think my "symptoms" are just features of my brains that I need to learn to control and master)

3:47 PM

In some meditative state, I can control my "hallucinations/symptoms", it's just like creating/forcing a tulpa, peacefully communicating with something

3:48 PM

it's meditation and yoga and tulpamancy who bring me to this way. I prefer the "Buddhism" vision/philosophy/psychology than the Western.

3:48 PM

that helped me to understand myself

what did you understand about yourself?

I like to think that some "hallucinations/symptoms" were maybe a sickness or trauma from the past, but also maybe a tulpa or imaginary friend or "inner mate", and not only 100% sickness only.

3:53 PM

and I also found that people who hear voices or have hallucinations gives this advice : try to make peace and listen and talk with your "voices" (inside or outside). It's like communicating with something/someone/maybe imaginary friend/or a tulpa, why not. Maybe I created a tulpa when I read about it. I feel like transitioning from "sickness/pain/symptoms" to "healing/tulpamancy/skills"

3:53 PM

I told my psychologist : I need my "symptoms" to "heal". I feel it this way. Symptoms are here to tell something to understand.

i don’t think plurality needs to be involved in the experiences you are describing

Many people told me "don't listen to your voices, ignore them", but I felt like I should do the other : listen to talk, talk with them, interact with them, while staying in the "common reality"

3:54 PM

I feel like it was just my imaginary world that I never took care of

3:57 PM

yeah sorry I can't explain my 5 last years of "experiences" like this in one day ^^ I just tell how I feel about this; some people will say : "it's a sickness", other people will say "it's a normal phenomenon because you live like this", other people will say "it's a gift from God", other people will say : "it's just your imaginary world", etc etc ... But nobody told me "live with this as you want, you know better than the other how to live with this, because you are unique and special and have unique story of life, we can't tell what you are experiencing" ... That's why I hate every people in my life

and also one reason I want a "tulpa/inner friend/construct of mind that understand me and share the same mind"

a tulpa would share same symptoms as you

You know, I want a good life, like everybody, and I'm on my 30y, so, many questions about my way of living and what way to go. I lost almost every passion/interest because of despair

3:58 PM

"a tulpa would share same 'skills' as me"

Leiko

i’m not an expert, but the differential for plurality and schizophrenia is that communication in plurality feels/is heard “in head”, while in the case of schizophrenia it’s outside of your head

uncontrolled and outside your head

it’s only a skill if you can controll it, blast

maybe we can't control everything ? Do you control everything inside your body ? Do your control your stomach ? Your digestive system ? Do you control your brain 100% ? And ? Are you mad about it ? Are you sick ?

i never called digesting to be a skill

maybe I should use the term "function" and not "skill", sorry for my lack of mastery in English

i think “esperience” is fitting

then, for me, "symptoms" are "expressions of functions"

experience*

experience, ok all right. I wanted to express that maybe it's something we can control. I came in tulpamancy thinking : maybe my "uncontrolled symptoms" are the "base of tulpamancy" (having vision, hearing voices, imposition, possession, etc)

4:06 PM

it was like creating a tulpa with total freedom, with no expectation, without knowing about it. Maybe just a "crazy funny tulpa having joke with myself" ahah

to be fair i am afraid it would just give your brain more stuff to play around in your experiences, it probably won’t help gaining control. There were people with schizophrenia in the community in the past but it didn’t seem to give them any more control

by the way, I also blessed the experiences that was hurtful for me, because it was interesting, even if these experiences went me go through suicidal attempt. I think I found answers in tulpamancy/multiplicity.

4:08 PM

I will try my best to have a healthy life without too much crazyness. But these experience woke up my "inner child with new dreams".

4:09 PM

I will keep my strong self with these principles of : non-violence, mostly love, but truth can hurt sometime. I'm still young, I don't know what I'm doing with myself and my mind and my spirit and etc. I like to try and discover things, at almost any cost, even if this cost me my life.

4:12 PM

in the end, last discovery about theses "sickness/symptoms/disorder (schizophrenia)" are : there is too many "links" in 2 parts of the brain, that are destroyed when we grow, but in some brain, too many links are still here. How too many links (wrong links?) in the brain can be a "curse" ? Maybe I used my brain "too much" ? I feel like it's a gift of nature, else, people like me would not exist anymore, because nature select the most fitted to live, right ?

the most fit are the most common in the society

maybe "too many links" are wrong again, and it's really "another form of life living in my brain", who knows, we don't know 100% of everything today, there is always place to experience.

outliers will always happen

true true, I try to be optimistic, that's all, that's sane

positive attitude and mindset

nothing wrong with being optimistic!

anyway, should it be "scary" or "wrong" to have a "sick tulpa" ?

my worry is that tulpamancy will give you tools to create answers rather than giving actual answers to you

I also have this question when it come to reproducing (having child), because schizophrenia is genetic (my father have schizophrenia). Should I have maybe child that will maybe have schizophrenia too. Anyway. Of course I will be careful and try to not hurt myself or my tulpa or my schizophrenic brain ^^

how can you tell if you created an answer rather than found truth?

nobody have the truth

4:17 PM

I come to the conclusion that maybe we are all living in an hallucination of a form of life (Matrix movie)

4:17 PM

I also come to the conclusion that maybe we are all tulpa

4:17 PM

it can be the truth

4:17 PM

maybe a higher mind created ourselves are tulpa, some psychic or spiritual entity from a more powerful mind. Who knows ? It can be true, it can be false, maybe there is no real truth

4:18 PM

who decided sane people are non psychotic ? Maybe the schizophrenic are the most sane people, but people doesn't like the difference, so they call this a sickness

4:18 PM

I'm good with my "natural feelings of being myself and not how other people want me to be/act"

4:19 PM

and you, how can you tell if you created an answer rather than found truth?

i’m sorry, i’m all for normalising symptoms people experience, but you might be taking it too far

4:27 PM

and you, how can you tell if you created an answer rather than found truth?

@BlastKiller - jump i’m not interested in truth and i don’t seek answers

oh no it's me who is sorry, maybe we don't understand each other yet. It's cool to talk to many subjects and have different opinion. Thanks for sharing yours

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

and you, how can you tell if you created an answer rather than found truth?

@BlastKiller - jump i’m not interested in truth and i don’t seek answers

I like this way of thinking, thanks. I will use it more in my life !

people in general delude themselves with truths and it’s easy to fall victim to it so i do resomate with some of what you are saying

4:28 PM

resonate*

Me I'm interested in experience and new way to live life

4:29 PM

and discover what we are capable to do. Life is always full of surprise and new things. Thanks for nice talk

thanks too, wish you all the best!

Hello everyone, I need some help When the host talks to me in the headspace, my avatar starts to get distorted, sometimes to the point I get bald. Neither of us is doing this on purpose, and this is very distracting How can we make this stop?

8:39 PM

Putting a hat normally helps, but we would like more ideas

Sounds like intrusive imagery. Are you able to reset the imagery when that happens?

Yuka

Sounds like intrusive imagery. Are you able to reset the imagery when that happens?

We try but it tends to go back into chaos

Are you guys able to have stable imagery outside of plural interactions?

Makikikikiki

We try but it tends to go back into chaos

I also lose control over my imagination often and trying to re-drive it doesnt always work, like in dreams...

9:11 PM

But

Yuka

Are you guys able to have stable imagery outside of plural interactions?

Normally yes

If there is some specific thing repeating you could try observing it without judging or putting any labels and try to let your mind wander on its own. That has helped me a lot with some things...

Hm

like, when it happens, stop interacting and watch your mind and look what its doing, dont be scared or be disgusted by it, just watch...

9:13 PM

Accept it, embrace it, and when it goes away let it go away.

9:14 PM

Dont try to resist it when it comes either, just let it in and let it out. Its like meditation.

We used to have a lot of trouble with intrusive imagery while interacting in wonderland and sadly my way of handling it was to just limit our interaction to text/mindvoice only for a fairly long time Over time things settled down and we can wonderland again and fix any thing off that pops in

I think it might help.

Destin's approach sounds good

Makikikikiki

Normally yes

But, if you're able to visualize with minimal issues outside of plural stuff, maybe investigate that? It shows you should be able to keep things relatively stable with headmates too

What happens to me is that at some point instead of beeing disgusted by it i just get fascinated by whatever my mind is doing and then not even that and then it goes away.

Wow Both of you have great approaches, seriously!

9:19 PM

We'll try to do it Thanks a lot ❤️

If you try it please tell me how it goes.

9:19 PM

I think you might discover a pleasant experience "arround" the bad one. (edited)

9:20 PM

If that makes sense.

Oook ❤️

Hopefully you don't need to take a break from it like we did ^_^;

9:24 PM

If it was just random glitchiness we probably wouldn't have stopped

One day, the whole place got gliched with creepy blue faces, but fortunately it was only once

Makikikikiki

One day, the whole place got gliched with creepy blue faces, but fortunately it was only once

I used to get creepy faces or morphing faces when absorted in my own mind.